Serial Numbers for 39A

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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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Regnier (gunrunner) wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:08 pm Dennis;
A Model 1897 is a Model 1897, not a Model 1894. The Model 1894 was chambered for pistol cartridges whereas the Model 1897 is a .22 caliber rifle only.
Sorry, I got my models mixed up here are a couple of pictures that might help. I would like to know the age, the last date I find on the rifle is 1901 on the rear sight. As you can see, it was fitted with a modern bolt, as the originals are very hard to find.

https://thebugfather.smugmug.com/Marlin1892/n-GZP4jv

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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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Biddy1711;

Since you do not see a letter prefix to the serial number, it appears that you may have a very early, first variation of the 39-A that would have been made in 1940.
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Dennis;

Your Marlin Model 1892 was shipped from the factory in New Haven, Ct. in mid to late 1898. It is a .22 caliber with a 24 inch octagon barrel.
The rear sight is not original as Marlin sights do not have a date stamped on them.
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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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Regnier (gunrunner) wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:05 am Dennis;

Your Marlin Model 1892 was shipped from the factory in New Haven, Ct. in mid to late 1898. It is a .22 caliber with a 24 inch octagon barrel.
The rear sight is not original as Marlin sights do not have a date stamped on them.
Thanks for the information Regnier, the barrel had been relined some time in the past.
The barrel doesn't have any markings as to caliber, but with the new bolt, would it be safe to assume that I can use standard velocity 22LR?
Did they use 22 short, 22 long and 22 long rifle back then?
Does anyone have a source for the correct bolt?

Here are some additional pictures, my concern it the bolt is proud of the receiver and it seems to be lacking an ejector.

https://thebugfather.smugmug.com/Marlin1892-2/n-x5XQFZ

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Dennis;

Yes, Marlin was the first to use the .22 caliber short, long and long rifle interchangeably without any adjustment to the rifle starting in 1891.
You can use standard velocity in your Model 1892, but I would have a concern about how the breech bolt aligns with the breech of the barrel the way it stands out from the receiver.
You can get a proper ejector from Wisner's ( www.wisnersinc.com )
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Regnier (gunrunner) wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:41 pm Dennis;

Yes, Marlin was the first to use the .22 caliber short, long and long rifle interchangeably without any adjustment to the rifle starting in 1891.
You can use standard velocity in your Model 1892, but I would have a concern about how the breech bolt aligns with the breech of the barrel the way it stands out from the receiver.
You can get a proper ejector from Wisner's ( www.wisnersinc.com )
Well, I cleaned the barrel and took it apart and it looks like the ejector is there.
Went out to the range, rounds chamber okay and fired, but don't extract.
I don't think it is the extractor as much as a possible rough or tight chamber.
You can feel the extractor making a weak attempt at pulling the case out, but even with a small screw driver it requires a lot of force to get it out of the chamber.
I plan on honing out the chamber with 800 grit brush research chamber brushes. I've use them before on a couple of revolvers and semi-autos that had sticky case extraction issues.

Maybe you can see the friction scrape marks on the fired cases on the below pictures.

https://thebugfather.smugmug.com/Marlin1892-3/n-LGwZ9j

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I’m sorry, moderators can you please delete all my posts unrelated to the topic.
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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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Hello all, I've got a few Marlins, but one has me stumped on year. Its serial is '26152325' on the tang Golden 39A on the barrel. Thanks for any info will share pics if needed
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Gilforeman;

That would be 1974. 100 - 26 = 74 or 1974.
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I have a 1951 marlin 39A that is in the ten thousand range for a serial number. A friend just bought another H serial number gun in the twenty one thousand range.. Apparently there were approximately eleven thousand guns made in between them. That sounds like an awful lot, but that left me wondering if they started each year with serial number one and appropriate prefix letter? Or did they start with something much higher numerically?

In short, how many of these did they produce annually?

In an unrelated question, did they make this gun with two different diameters of barrels? I seem to remember a friend showing me a 1950s vintage rifle, which had a substantially thicker barrel than mine, which left me thinking that there might have been a bull barrel version and a lighter barrel.
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My list of 39A production goes from 1952-1975, so not sure about totals for 1951. But the totals for 1952 were huge, and I would guess 1951 was also much larger than the 21000 you're thinking about. Not sure why Marlin sold so many then as later 1950's were much smaller quantities.
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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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I've read most if not the info on this thread but I still cannot determine the date of a 39A I just came into possession of.

Under the lever = H1714

On barrel = JM (or could be UM)

Thanks for your help.
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Bohunka;

The "H" prefix to the serial number indicates the year your Marlin Model 39-A was manufactured. That would be 1951 as shown on the first page of the topic where the prefixes for Marlin Firearms Company rifles are posted.
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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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Yes, I saw that info on the 1st page but was thrown off by the JM on the barrel and wondering if that played a role in the date of manufacture.

Thank you for your help.
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Re: Serial Numbers for 39A

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Would this be considered a no letter prefix or a 1958 or 1959?
57057 but not sure if the first is a 5 or a S?
Looks more like a five. And the model only has MOD.39
I post pictures but not sure how to do it on this website. Could anybody help me out thanks.
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