Restoring a burned 1895

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Restoring a burned 1895

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A few months ago I bought several guns that had been burned in a house fire. The guns were in a "fireproof" safe. The house burned to the ground. Fortunately no one was hurt. I would guess that the temperature inside the safe reached around 500-600 F. Hard rubber buttplates were melted/burned, but the springs still retained their correct temper. All of the guns looked like they had been in excellent condition prior to the fire. I did not expect to be able to salvage the wood, but was pleasantly surprised. The finish was burned off, but the wood underneath was not badly scorched.

THE BEFORE PHOTOS:
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The metal parts were fairly easy to clean up, with few scrtaches or dings. Markings were in excellent shape. The wood was a bit more work. I soaked the wood in vinegar, then steamed them repeatedly using my wifes iron and a towel soaked in vinegar. (It's a good thing my wife doesn't read my posts.) The vinegar eventually removed the burned smell.
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I then used Klean Strip two part wood bleach to remove any remaining stains. An oil rubed finish was then applied to the wood.

I recently moved to Cody, WY, and this was my first restoration project after setting up my equipment. Our source of water is from a natural spring, and I was anxious to see how the water worked for CCH'g. The first attempt, using the spring water was a failure. The water is apparently too hard, with too much Calcium. The colors were very muted, with almost no pattern. It looked really blah. I next tried treated soft water. A little beter than the hard water, but still unacceptable. I suspect that there was too many Sodium ions (a result of removing the Calcium). For the third try and final try, I used distilled water. The results proove that the quench water has a profound bearing on the results. If you're having trouble with your CCH'g, the first place to start trouble shooting is the water.

THE AFTER PHOTOS:
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CCH'g Data:

1:1 bone to wood charcoal ratio
2.5 hours at 1350F, then cooled to 1100F and allowed to stablize before quenching
Distilled water, aerated for several hours.
Water temp at quench 33F. (It gets cold up here) The aeration kept the quench water from freezing.
Dissolved Oxygen measured prior to quench was 14 PPM.

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Jim

Nice job! Looks Great!

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Thanks Clark. This was one of those where there was no question as to whether it should have been restored.

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Wow! Looks like the change of venue hasn't changed your results! Nice gun, and some great features too!-Vall
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I agree. Excellent, excellent work. :mrgreen:
It's a chancey job and it makes a man watchfull....and a little lonely.
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Thanks guys. The next project is a 1891 side loader that was in the safe with this gun. I think that I'll be able to save the wood on this one as well, and the bore is mint.

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Very nice work Jim D!!!
I as well have switched to distilled water with amazing results.
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JimD;

So, how does it shoot?????
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Thanks Dan.

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Howdy Rick!

Shoots like a dream,tight as new. The bore is a good solid 9. I stuck a tang sight on it and was hitting an 18" wide rock at 375 yds after I got it dialed in.

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Jim,
I don't know which I envy more, the rifle or the view I see you have in the reflection of the window. Nice work as always! Can't wait to see the sideloader.
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Hi John,

The view of the gun doesn't even hold a candle to the view in the window!

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Beautiful view. By the way what is that white stuff on the ground? :mrgreen:
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That's volcanic ash from the Yellowstone caldera. :shock:
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Now that's just plain mean Jim! Bad enough some of us still have to work for a living, without having that picture stuck in my mind. :wink:
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